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Author Topic: How i started a nanobrewery in Venezuela!!! Part IV  (Read 2458 times)

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How i started a nanobrewery in Venezuela!!! Part IV
« on: April 10, 2014, 06:19:20 PM »

You can find the first part I and II of this post on:
Part I

http://17crew.com/forums/your-brewing-stories/how-i-started-a-nanobrewery-in-venezuela!!!-part-i/

Part II
http://17crew.com/forums/your-brewing-stories/how-i-started-a-nanobrewery-in-venezuela!!!-part-ii/

Part III
http://17crew.com/forums/your-brewing-stories/how-i-started-a-nanobrewery-in-venezuela!!!-part-iii/



As in the earlier parts, before I write my story I need to explain a little more about how all it works here in Venezuela. My country it’s a little different in many ways, I think that almost all members of 17crew live in development countries, so when you talk about the law you are talking about some serious things. As I explain before the laws here in Venezuela it was written by the big commercial breweries and try to change a law it would take several years. In example similar to the homebrew beer legal problems it is a legal situation with the craft production of a liquor called ¨Cocuy de Penca¨ it is basically a craft tequila, this tequila it is made in some deserted zones in Venezuela  by people with very low economic resources and its illegal, several years ago the army search for this illegal places and destroy it, recently it’s a movement to legalize this Cocuy de Penca , the battle I think that have something like 15 years long and today is still illegal.

But you can find this Cocuy in almost every liquor store in Venezuela. At this moment I think that they are very close to make legal this craft tequila. I explain this because the people who read this post will think how we can sell beer without any legal permission.

Usually the governments understand that these old laws are obsolete and they try to not harm these little craft movements. So, in some way this happens with the craft beer movement, at the moment we are illegal but we are so small that the government doesn’t pay attention to us.

Ok, after the horrible contamination on January of 2012, we change our bottles, now we bottle the beer in 750 ml bottles (like the champagne bottles), because in some way it´s easier to buy these bottles and the bottling it´s easier too.

In mid 2012 we are selling our beer in 3 bars in Caracas and we are at top capacity, it was very difficult to make the beer, bottling and finally shipping it, and remember that we have our original works, so we don´t have any time at all, we cook and bottle in weekends and in the night, these was really a nightmare, in part because our equipment it was handmade, very inefficient and slow, of course we use homebrewing equipment to make large batches of beer.

So we need bigger equipment, but in this particularly moment we produce just to cover the expenses of the brewery, so we can´t do anything to build the expansion.

--The Circus--
In late 2012, we has at this time a name in the underground beer culture in Caracas, we established our brand in some bars in Caracas, we bought a draft system in amazon to make promotional events.

In that moment the movement has an exponential growth and the circus of homebrewery arrived to Venezuela, everywhere it was people making craft beer, the wine sommeliers come to us to make degustation’s of this new estrange liquid in the finest restaurants of Caracas, some newspaper magazines make articles about us and other homebrewers, it was and it is something crazy and some recent graduated filmmakers wants to make an little documentary about this movement (I will put the trailer link in this post, the full documentary will be out soon) because it was something new in a country were all the investment was gone as a result of the bad economy and problems, they think ¨look, this estrange guys trying to make a business in a country where no one wants to invest¨.

So the circus was in, and the movement growing but it was a movement without any organization, some brewers tried to go to the congress, but practically they laugh at us because we are just a group of crazy people making weird beers, and you remember the corruption problem in the country? Well we have no money so they have no interest in help us.

In this moment a group of homebrewer has the idea of the foundation of an association of craft brewers to fight for this movement and at the end legalize the craft beer in Venezuela, as usual it was a difficult path that it will take several months to make real this idea.

--Finally we see a profit--
In all these time we practically put all our works money into the brewery, and happily we earn our first Bolivar or our first dollar, in the next months because we has a lots of stock, of malts, yeast and hops, we see the benefits of our hard work.

Remember that we have all these handmade equipment? Well we decide to invest instead of take that profit to our pockets and we want at that time to invest in a better equipment, but we have again another problem and it was again the dollar problem!!!! we can’t afford to buy a new machine  it’s too expensive, so in our never-ending quest to search the brewing knowledge I find a great book that help us to design a nanobrewery machine, this book was Technology Brewing and Malting by Wolfgang Kunze (https://www.vlb-berlin.org/en/publications/specialist-publications/technology-brewing-and-malting), in this book you can find everything related to brewing and malting process, and detailed information about equipment.

So as I said we begun with a new dream, this dream was the design of a brewery machine here in Venezuela.


The rest of 2012 was a great year but the best of this story it will happens in 2013!!!!!

End of part IV

You can see the trailer in spanish:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj9iSUzwgc4
« Last Edit: April 10, 2014, 06:32:48 PM by OldDans »

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Re: How i started a nanobrewery in Venezuela!!! Part IV
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2014, 07:51:43 PM »
This is awesome.

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Re: How i started a nanobrewery in Venezuela!!! Part IV
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2014, 08:02:31 PM »
Wow, this story just gets better.  Any chance they will release the documentary with English subtitles?  I think it would interest a lot of the USA craft beer fans out there.

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Re: How i started a nanobrewery in Venezuela!!! Part IV
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2014, 09:01:51 PM »
Wow, this story just gets better.  Any chance they will release the documentary with English subtitles?  I think it would interest a lot of the USA craft beer fans out there.


I can make the subtitles, don´t worry!!!

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Re: How i started a nanobrewery in Venezuela!!! Part IV
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2014, 09:12:55 PM »

Wow, this story just gets better.  Any chance they will release the documentary with English subtitles?  I think it would interest a lot of the USA craft beer fans out there.


I can make the subtitles, don´t worry!!!
That would be great!

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Re: How i started a nanobrewery in Venezuela!!! Part IV
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2014, 09:05:14 AM »
Fantastic  :)

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Re: How i started a nanobrewery in Venezuela!!! Part IV
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2014, 07:55:18 AM »
this just gets better and better.
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