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Author Topic: Five Star 5.2 pH Stabilizer is a Fraud  (Read 3642 times)

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Five Star 5.2 pH Stabilizer is a Fraud
« on: January 26, 2017, 04:56:38 PM »
According to Matt Brungard, the creator of the Brun'n Water water chemistry spreadsheet. 

https://youtu.be/3Zc5aEoJSEE?t=42m

Brungard isn't the only one to have tested this product only to find that it doesn't work as advertised.  So has AJ Delange, an expert on brewing water who is cited in the Water book by Palmer and Kaminski:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showpost.php?p=7621736&postcount=15

And Denny Conn: https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=12810.msg162597#msg162597

And Kai Troester: http://beersmith.com/blog/2008/10/05/beer-ph-hard-water-treatment-for-brewing/#comment-30159


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Re: Five Star 5.2 pH Stabilizer is a Fraud
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2017, 08:55:48 PM »
I think you'd have to be pretty silly to imagine that adding a fixed amount of any chemical will yield a pH oh 5.2, regardless of its starting pH. :P
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Re: Five Star 5.2 pH Stabilizer is a Fraud
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2017, 10:11:05 PM »
Agree.

I am lucky to be able to work at a power plant where boiler water chemistry is extremely important.

So important, that the company who supplies us with our boiler feedwater chemicals provides us with an onsite chemist once per week.

We've had a few discussions about the Five Star 5.2 pH Stabilizer product.

Waste of money.
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Re: Five Star 5.2 pH Stabilizer is a Fraud
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2017, 02:00:36 AM »
Thanks a ton for sharing this post

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Re: Five Star 5.2 pH Stabilizer is a Fraud
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2017, 07:50:08 AM »
 :-[ :-[ :-[ i bought a container of it :-\ used it twice then read up on it :-[
its still sitting on my shelf >:(
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Re: Five Star 5.2 pH Stabilizer is a Fraud
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2017, 09:53:21 AM »
The perpetrator of this crime should made to drink 375mls of sulfuric acid.  he can mix his potion into it and see how his little scam goes then. the fukr. 17.
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Re: Five Star 5.2 pH Stabilizer is a Fraud
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2017, 11:19:54 AM »
:-[ :-[ :-[ i bought a container of it :-\ used it twice then read up on it :-[
its still sitting on my shelf >:(
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Me too then I heard talk about this on this forum. I just kept using it till it was gone then never bought any more to replace it. My beer hasn't seemed to get any better or worse since I've stopped using it.
Anyone who says that beer is a depressant isn't drinking enough of it.

 

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