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Author Topic: Hop Rhizomes and plants  (Read 857 times)

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Hop Rhizomes and plants
« on: July 29, 2017, 06:35:25 AM »
I decided to make a thread on hop rhizomes for anyone thinking of growing their own plants.
I have Cascade and Centennial hops, plus a wild hop that I think is a Kent Golding.
so I bought the Cascade and Centennial rhizomes going on 3 years ago and stuck them in our garden. the first year I only got a few ounces, the second year I got just over a pound of Cascade and 8oz of Centennial. The Kent Goldings I transplanted them into a flower bed and the first year I only got 6 hop cones last year I only got an ounce.
So where am I going with this? The size of the rhizomes yup, it seems to make a difference (thats what she told me ::) )  my Cascade rhizome was 8 inches long and almost 1/2 inch round, the Centennial was 6 inches and 1/4 inch round and the Goldings was 1 foot long and like an 1/8 inch round. Now I know there's probably more to this, but this is what I have found so far.
All got fed once a week with fish emulation and watered every other day.
Starting in late May to the end of July the first 2 years.
this year the Cascade and Centennial didn't get fed and I trimmed rhizomes off each of them.
The Cascade was again bigger the Centennial. I am attaching photos of them and you tell me what you think?
So in short if you get small rhizomes it may take longer to get a bigger harvest.
If you can choose them go for a bigger one.
Seems I have babbled enough on this, hope it helps
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Re: Hop Rhizomes and plants
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2018, 03:58:01 PM »
getting ready to prune my hop crowns for the first time.
My Cascade and Centennial crowns have rhizomes going 5 to 6 feet away.
so time to trim them up. planning to do this next weekend after Easter hoping the weather stays nice now.
if i remember i will take a few pics and update this section.
after pruning planning to get a taller pipe this year and have them grow straight up instead of at an angle.
we will see what i can come up with.
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Re: Hop Rhizomes and plants
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2018, 04:31:23 PM »
I don't really know your east kent Golding hop problem but its
is a traditional hop from the County of Kent in southeastern England. Although hops were first planted in the region by immigrant Flemish farmers around the beginning of the 1400s, East Kent Golding was released officially and commercially only a little more than a century ago, East Kent Golding's grown anywhere else in the world are referred to Golding hops, we grow Golding hops in Worcester, UK, probability is that the differences in soil maybe some of the problem, but one thing that I've noticed is that they grow goldings up string and not poles maybe try this combat. 17

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Re: Hop Rhizomes and plants
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2018, 04:46:06 PM »
In the local Farm they look like this but this is cascade.


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Re: Hop Rhizomes and plants
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2018, 09:05:32 AM »
In the local Farm they look like this but this is cascade.
Thanks those poles were just for the first season :) my other hops are in my garden and grow 25 feet tall Cascade and Centennial. the mystery hops are from my aunt and uncles farm in New York she had a friend give her a plant about 20 years ago and she planted it behind a shed. she never took care of them and they just grow everywhere.
i to a very small rhizome and brought back home with me. yeah so if they are a Golding variety, which i believe they are, I should call them Goldings :)
 


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Re: Hop Rhizomes and plants
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2018, 07:50:22 PM »
ok so an update

4 year old plants Centennial and Cascade  rhizomes were about quarter inch to 3/8 inc diameter


3 year old Goldings   Rhizome was small maybe 1/8th inch round


2nd year Centennial small rhizome under a quarter inch round


2nd year Cascade about a quarter inch round maybe a little bigger
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Re: Hop Rhizomes and plants
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2018, 09:11:52 PM »
Hi Combat32.

Your 2 year old goldings (shown in your pics) that have been trained to grow horizontally along a wire mesh trellis are an inspiration for those of us who are vertically challenged !

Grt example of non-vertical hop farming.

Thx for sharing how these plants will grow towards a non-vertical direction if you guide them that way.

Pls let us know how your plants do at your rural property in Pennsylvania.  Patty actually stopped me in my tracks when we were headed towards our property in upstate New York with the 2nd half of the Rhizomes that you sent me because she asked "How are those plants going to be watered up here every other day?".
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Re: Hop Rhizomes and plants
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2018, 07:46:28 AM »
my goldings to tell the truth i kind of neglected them after planting :-[  i didnt think they would make it. so i planted them and i may have watered them for about a week then let them go.
they survived the rough treatment and now they are almost as big as my original hops.
so dont worry too much, if you plan to go out for a few week ends in a row, plant them and water when your there.  out at my other property in PA i have some areas that have water close so i think i will plant close to them. those goldings only have gotten fed the fish emulation concoction once every couple weeks and i dont water those   :o   they are pretty tough plants.
if your soil at your other property has an area that is wet or holds moisture plant there.
training them to the fence was a daily task, everyday when i got the mail a few minutes of weaving the bines into the fence. of coarse in the fall after picking the task of getting them out is even longer ;)
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2018, 07:41:07 AM »
Hello everyone...those plants are looking great combat!  Great looking trellis!  I moved and took my cascade with me,  and its in a pot right now.  Your plant on the fence...Ive been thinking of setting mine up that way in my front yard.  Any thoughts on growing that way,  good or bad?

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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2018, 11:40:50 AM »
Thanks,  yeah growing them on my fence is great, one advantage is picking them is easy.
my vertical ones i have to pull them down and set them on a table on my porch and pick them.
while taking them down as you know few end up on the ground so im always chasing the dogs away from them (i dont want any dog pee IPA  :o ) the only disadvantage is once your done you have to get the dried up bines out of the fence. when they are nice and green it looks ok, but brown bines in the fence not to appealing ;)  everyday you have to weave them into the fence.
not a big deal. but if you cant grow vertical then i would suggest horizontal.
nice seeing you back, you still in CT?
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