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Author Topic: Induction Burners  (Read 177 times)

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Induction Burners
« on: November 13, 2017, 09:03:33 PM »
Hi, I'm new to 17BrewCrew but an avid fan and participant in the home brewing community. In lieu of purchasing a new range, could someone recommend a good 1800W induction burner?  It currently takes me 6 hr to brew up a simple extract beer. On the Tappan range I'm using, it takes forever to bring 3 gallons of wort to a boil... not good.  :(  Thank you for any advice you can share with me.

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Re: Induction Burners
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2017, 07:55:51 AM »
welcome aboard!

I think Craigtube uses a sulton or salton i forget the spelling and i dont remember the wattage. sorry i cant help more then that, im sure some of the other guys will chime in.
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Re: Induction Burners
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2017, 03:52:57 AM »
I think your right Combat.
Craig's is only 1800w and I think that is the limit on a standard US outlet, or at least his.
(correct me if im wrong)
Here in Aus we can get up to 2400w (10A) but they are expensive and hard to find.
The most common is a 2000w and as we run 240v that is only about 8A.
I have one, but I found that even that struggled to boil any thing more than 7L or 2 gallons. It will but it takes ages.
I think gas is the go or if you have an induction cooktop in your kitchen with a large 3kw burner, they work great!
IMHO a small plug in induction burner is good for a mini boil, up to 5 or 6L or 1.5 Gal.
At least with the one I have.
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Re: Induction Burners
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2017, 07:52:43 AM »
1800w at 120v is 15amps   that would need a 20amp circuit breaker
2000w at 120v is 16.6 amps  that is maxing out a 20amp circuit breaker but still safe.

so if you live in the US you could get a 2000w burner if you have a dedicated circuit for it.

one other thing like Tas said if you can get a propane burner that would do the job.

I suggest to new brewers to think a year down the road, meaning if you like the beer your brewing are you going to try and do all grain or full boils? if you are than save some money and buy a large pot so you have room for the boil and then it comes down to how much room you have for brewing equipment. if you have plenty of room you could think about a three pot system gas or electric. if you dont have a lot of room think about a all in one electric brewery like a grainfather, Brauhaus or robobrew.
all great units and small. I have plenty of room and i decided a grainfather was for me.
I was going to build an electric three keg system then realized i only plan to brew 5-6 gallon batches. ehh i rambled enough
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Keg 3- sMasH Mystery Hop
Keg 4- Sour Cherry Gose
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Re: Induction Burners
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2017, 03:50:36 AM »
I really would very much like a system which uses an induction burner and have really done a lot of Internet research...and have given up. The biggest limitation seems to be the amount of weight that the burners are designed to handle. A few gallons of beer is more than any of them are rated, that I've found, anyway. However, I have seen videos on YouTube of people putting several gallons of beer on their burners and getting away with it (and remarking on the weight as well, as that was a concern for them, too). So I don't know.

I did see one interesting video. I imagine that the efficiency of this setup is way less that what the guy expected, but what he did was put two induction burners side by side, then treated them as if they were just one burner, setting a pot so it was centered right between them. I'm thinking that he's either a genius or a lucky idiot, most likely the latter.... Let me explain: by a "genius," he either is knowledgeable about the physics of the burners and worked out the electrodynamics and determined that it would work. Let's just say that he didn't come across to me as being quite that...intellectual. On the "idiot" side of the equation, I'm thinking that he had no idea how induction burners work, so he figured that what he was doing would work for a regular burner, so why not an induction burner as well? Well, in the end, it apparently worked. The magnetic fields of those two side by side burners actually set up an electric current within his pot, which heated up his pot, and allowed the contents of the pot to heat up. Velly intellestink.

I'm working on an all grain system myself, and if I can figure out a way to do it with induction burners, I'm 100% in favor. The next best choice is some kind of an electric set-up. If I can't make that work, it's a different kind of electric set-up: a Grainfather or a competitor. In the worst case scenario, I'll go propane.

If you find something that works, I hope you'll post an update.

 

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