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Author Topic: Whats the best all around brewing yeast.  (Read 893 times)

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Whats the best all around brewing yeast.
« on: February 27, 2018, 09:07:08 AM »
What's the best all around brewing yeast to have on hand in case of a stuck fermentation. I would like to keep 1 or2 packets on hand.

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Re: Whats the best all around brewing yeast.
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2018, 10:54:14 AM »
US-05 would be my suggestion. S-04 would also work.
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Re: Whats the best all around brewing yeast.
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2018, 11:59:00 AM »
I agree with BuddhaNole... US-05.  Hearty, keeps well, clean and sturdy yeast. 
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Re: Whats the best all around brewing yeast.
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2018, 01:29:44 PM »
agreed to last two, US-05 or US-04 both great and both pretty neutral in flavors.
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Re: Whats the best all around brewing yeast.
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2018, 01:39:53 PM »
Very good those suggestions above here. I would like to add W 34/70 which is also a good allround for some lager styles as well as some ales.
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Re: Whats the best all around brewing yeast.
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2018, 02:01:12 AM »
I agree, US-05 is a great all rounder for many types of beers and S-04 is great as well. If Safale is something you cant get for some reason, then Danstar Nottingham is another good all rounder. Or  maybe Mangrove Jack M44.

All these are good options to have on hand, in fact I use mostly US-05 for most of my beers. I am starting to use Nottingham a bit more now and it is just as good.
 
Other yeast strains are great if your after a specific characteristic for a particular beer style, but for an all rounder yeast for almost any ale style beer, these are the ones I would have on hand.
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Re: Whats the best all around brewing yeast.
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2018, 08:50:06 PM »
What's the best all around brewing yeast to have on hand in case of a stuck fermentation. I would like to keep 1 or2 packets on hand.


It depends why you have a stuck fermentation. A stuck fermentation is often impossible to get going again. Here is a very good link about stuck fermentation and should dispel many myths you might find on the topic. Prevention is far easier than the cure. 17.

http://www.keystonehomebrew.com/2013/07/stuck-fermentations/
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Re: Whats the best all around brewing yeast.
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2018, 03:28:41 PM »
What's the best all around brewing yeast to have on hand in case of a stuck fermentation. I would like to keep 1 or2 packets on hand.
Think you should look into what's causing the stuck fermentation instead. It's not a common thing when brewing properly.

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Re: Whats the best all around brewing yeast.
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2018, 01:08:48 AM »
Interesting topic of "stuck" fermentation.  I know from my experience, there a a number of consistent contributors to the problem.

First, My impatience.  After the initial high kreusen,  it's my impatience that can have me over assess the brew, not giving enough time for the yeast to finish up.  Once i got through that.... then there are other opportunities to stuck fermentation...

Secondly... varying ambiant temperatures around the fermenter.  If you are not supporting the yeast's "sweet spot" of temperature range, it can induce a stall.  Do what you can to compensate for the heat generated by the initial fermentation and be aware that possibly an adjustment of the ambiant temperature around your fermentation vessel may be necessary. 

Thirdly... initial oxygenation and nutrients.  Give the yeast as much fuel as you can to have good fermentation.  Just like combustion in your car's engine.  (Tesla owners go away)  fuel, oxygen and ignition source.  very important. 

Bottom line, I like what Dr. Hans said... good technique from the beginning will limit the opportunity to a stuck fermentation.  But every now and then, it can and will happen.    Getting your fermenter in appropriate temperature range and a good "shake" is sometimes all that is needed to get things finished up nicely.

My humble opinion. 

I'm sure there are many of you here that can articulate this better than I... please dive in and correct me where i'm wrong.

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Re: Whats the best all around brewing yeast.
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2018, 01:34:23 AM »
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Bottom line, I like what Dr. Hans said... good technique from the beginning will limit the opportunity to a stuck fermentation. .

Cheers!  17!

I like what I said better because I provided information on what causes it and how to prevent it .  :P ;D
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Re: Whats the best all around brewing yeast.
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2018, 07:58:41 AM »
So my go to is Safale US05. I”ve had great success saving it for next batch..which saves some money.    Never had a stuck ferment.  But because of my biochem back ground have been monitoring the chemistry and pH...maybe too much.  One time my calcium was low and I just pitched a few of my wife’s ‘gummy’ calcium’s in...it worked great!....just a practical aside

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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2018, 06:10:10 AM »

I like what I said better because I provided information on what causes it and how to prevent it .  :P ;D

Yes, Vic Maybe I could have written a better answer!
I just thought he was steering in the wrong direction looking for a yeast to have on hand for stuck mashes.

Good brewing practice is my suggestion.
Plan your recipe and brew to fit your yeast/bugs of choice and wanted outcome.




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Re: Whats the best all around brewing yeast.
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2018, 06:00:31 PM »
There's a few things going on here.
Most people who responded , did so to the question in the title rather than the full question in the post. Maybe the OP could have titled it better and should learn from that.
An ale yeast like 05 or -4 is the last yeast you would pitch for a stuck fermentation unless you like wasting it but it's a great yeast to use to avoid it unless you have harvested and underpitch as I have in the past.(05 that is)
If an ale yeast is stuck it probably left behind some markers letting the other cells know that the job is done and the party is over. Reintroducing another ale yeast would be usually futile as it would see these markers and go to sleep and do nothing.
Perhaps a nice clean wine yeast like SN9 might get it going but what would the beer be like after it has finished with it? Yes you could monitor the gravity and kill it off at the desired FG.

My reply to Playground was a bit cheeky and I did forget to copy the part that said to correct him if wrong. Hopefully the OP is now educated about it . 17.
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Re: Whats the best all around brewing yeast.
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2018, 10:20:55 AM »
There's a few things going on here.
Most people who responded , did so to the question in the title rather than the full question in the post. Maybe the OP could have titled it better and should learn from that.
An ale yeast like 05 or -4 is the last yeast you would pitch for a stuck fermentation unless you like wasting it but it's a great yeast to use to avoid it unless you have harvested and underpitch as I have in the past.(05 that is)
If an ale yeast is stuck it probably left behind some markers letting the other cells know that the job is done and the party is over. Reintroducing another ale yeast would be usually futile as it would see these markers and go to sleep and do nothing.
Perhaps a nice clean wine yeast like SN9 might get it going but what would the beer be like after it has finished with it? Yes you could monitor the gravity and kill it off at the desired FG.

My reply to Playground was a bit cheeky and I did forget to copy the part that said to correct him if wrong. Hopefully the OP is now educated about it . 17.
well put Vic, another option would be to try a lager yeast which ferments the 3chain sugars that ale yeast doesnt consume easily like the 2 chain sugars. not sure it would be a good choice for a stuck fermentation. I must of read the question wrong.  :-[    I assumed he meant if it didnt start fermenting ie bad yeast. 
fermentation temp control is probably second to proper sanitation habits   :)
yeah i agree with drhans too on good brewing pactice  :)
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Re: Whats the best all around brewing yeast.
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2018, 11:50:20 PM »
But i like it when you are cheeky! :P
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