+- +-

+-User

Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
 
 
 
Forgot your password?

+-Gallery

Shoutbox

combat32 says: Happy Labor Day
Brew Beerymore says: Cheers, 17'ers!
combat32 says: Happy 4th
combat32 says: Happy Memorial Day
Thank you to all our Veterans past, present and future ones.
17
combat32 says: Kentucky derby time
says: Try again lol,   ???Is this the bathroom?
says: ??? Is the the bathroom?
combat32 says: ehh freakin snow I hate it bring on summer
newf84 says: Cheers everyone!!
combat32 says: I like it!!  Just Brew It!

+-Top Posters

combat32
Posts: 4176
vic
Posts: 3672
DamoNinja
Posts: 2865
CorronZenith
Posts: 2766
Greedy Dragon Brewing
Posts: 2496

Author Topic: Proper way to plant multiple hop Rhizomes  (Read 163 times)

Black Dog Brewery

  • Sr. Member

  • Offline
  • ****

  • 469
Proper way to plant multiple hop Rhizomes
« on: July 11, 2018, 10:57:02 PM »
Thx Combat32 for the "Hop Mail" of Cascade and Centennial hop rhizomes a couple of months ago !

Just some notes and questions . . .

-  I did keep them in the refrigerator wrapped in a moist paper towel until I was able to plant them.  They actually sprouted while in the fridge.

-  I did plant them laying horizontally a few inches below the ground.

-  Kept them moist in the ground, but did not over water them.

-  Initially I setup a short tomato pole for them to grab onto while training the vines, and now have setup a longer pole made out of EMT conduit.

So far so good, but I do have a couple of questions . . .

-  How far apart are you supposed to plant the rhizomes?  The ones you sent are already growing, but I'm just curious how invasive hop plants are as they send out other roots below ground towards other plantings in the vegetable garden.  Are they like bamboo where it's best to plant them in some sort of container that is buried below the surface but keeps the roots from spreading outward?

-  Once the plants are established, do they winter over while in the ground in our freezing northern climate, or do you have to do something special to preserve them?

-  How and when did you harvest the rhizomes that you sent me?  I would like to preserve some as a backup, and also be able to share them in the future with other home brewers who are interested.

Thx again brew buddy !


Cheers & 17,

Jim,
Long Island, New York
My Youtube Channel

FERMS:
- Sour Beer For Beginners
- Barley Wine
- Pumpkin Ale
SERVING:
- Combat32 Drooling Dog

Brew Beerymore

  • Superhero Member

  • Offline
  • *****
  • Technician's Brewery

  • 1467
    • My youtube channel
Re: Proper way to plant multiple hop Rhizomes
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2018, 02:59:53 AM »
I'm not Combat, but nevertheless...

5 feet apart is good for hops. They do spread out their roots a bit, but you should keep trimming down those shoots you don't need for your trellis. You can absolutely confine the root system within a box if you like, the hops can take that easily. That way you can have them closer if you wish. You should give them about 1,5' x 1,5' then.

Your hops will be fine through the winter. No need for special treatment of any sort. When spring comes, they will shoot up and make you happy yet another season.

When shoots start coming up from the ground it's a good time to get rhizomes. You can use your fingers to brush away the top soil and find rhizomes with shoots on them. Find a spot with more than one shoot, and cut off 3-4 inches so that you have a rhizome with a few shoots on it. Wrap it in soaked paper towels and bag it.


17!
Quote of BB:    I think I've passed that point where I'm no longer under the influence of alcohol. The alcohol is actually under my influence..

FV 1: USB Porter OG: 1.090
FV 2: Network Porter OG: 1.040

Tap 1: Solid IPA 7% ABV
Tap 2: BB's Ginger Brew 6,5
Keg 3 & 4: Clean Slate Saison 17

combat32

  • Master Brewer
  • Superhero Member

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 4176
Re: Proper way to plant multiple hop Rhizomes
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2018, 10:25:24 AM »
Hey Black Dog Brewery!

as Brew Beerymore has said 5 feet is good, but i found 8 feet is better, thats for when we get those breezy days they like to sway and depending on how loose your lines are they could tangle.

harvesting, which can be end of September to mid or end of October, it is hard to say its a judgement call, look at the cones and give them a squeeze if they dont feel papery leave them.
pick one and peel it open look at the lupulin inside should be a bright-pale yellow/orange color and smell them.

after harvest, since this is your first year cut the bines about 3 feet above the ground and leave them alone for the winter. they will be fine. I put some of my leafs over them maybe a two hand fulls. it makes me feel good giving them a blanket  ::)

I dry them on a old screen window over a box fan, out of sun light. depending on how dry it is i leave them on the fan for the whole day while im at work. come home and vacuum pack them into 1-2oz bags, ive had three days of drying got almost 2lbs of hops  :D

you harvest rhizomes in the spring, i took the leafs off the top when i saw the shoots coming up and once i was positive no more frost would be coming i loosened up the dirt and cut the rhizomes close to the crown. they will grow out far. i had one that was 4 feet long and thats the one i sent you a piece of. you only need a 3-6inch piece to start. I even used a 2inch and its working.
I started another post on rhizome sizes and the affect it has on growing.
the bigger the rhizome circumference the faster and healthier the first year will be.
now that is what i have found, im not a hop farmer by any means  :) but this is year number 4 for me  8) 
same thing as how you got the rhizome from me, is the best way to store them. i still have 2 more in my fridge that i am going to plant on my other property next week hopefully  :)

i may try a wet hop beer this year with my cascade hops, if i get a good harvest.
glad to see you are enjoying them. dont hesatate to ask me anything about them i will give you as much as i have learned while growing them and of course babble on and on and on  :o

17

ps here is a good read on hop harvesting and stuff

https://www.fortlewis.edu/Portals/178/four%20corners%20hops%20analysis.pdf

17
« Last Edit: July 12, 2018, 10:55:41 AM by combat32 »
Keg 1- Coconut Pale ale
Keg 2- GaardenHoe
Keg 3- Sour Cherry Gose
Keg 4- HB Hefeweizen
Keg 5- Mosaic lager
Keg 6- Drooling Dog IPA
Keg 7-
FV1- NB Oktoberfest
FV2-
Planning-

Black Dog Brewery

  • Sr. Member

  • Offline
  • ****

  • 469
Re: Proper way to plant multiple hop Rhizomes
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2018, 10:33:49 PM »
Thx Combat32 and BB for your replies !

It's pretty fascinating how these plants grow like no other that I've had in my garden.  Plus, regardless of how big or small the harvest will be, the thought of being able to add some home grown hops into a home brew is pretty cool !

Based upon your advice I will definitely have to move them further apart for next year.  But in the meantime they seem fragile but very happy.
Cheers & 17,

Jim,
Long Island, New York
My Youtube Channel

FERMS:
- Sour Beer For Beginners
- Barley Wine
- Pumpkin Ale
SERVING:
- Combat32 Drooling Dog

 

Recent Topics

My best BIPA recipe and reviewing a beer mail BIPA by combat32
Today at 07:41:22 AM

Computer problems!!! by DavidWhorton
September 20, 2018, 03:40:23 PM

Brewed a lager with 40% rice [VIDEO] by combat32
September 17, 2018, 07:39:12 AM

Happy Home Brew Wednesday 2-21-18 by combat32
September 15, 2018, 06:16:03 PM

What did you just pour? New Thread by combat32
September 15, 2018, 05:19:46 PM

Newbie at wine, have questions on fermenter size. by combat32
September 14, 2018, 10:08:02 AM

Harley Brew Drooling Dog IPA rev5 by combat32
September 12, 2018, 07:44:26 AM

Windsor yeast finished after one day? by BDRJ
September 10, 2018, 01:27:07 PM

Stout taste challenge! by Hplovecraft07
September 10, 2018, 12:25:26 PM

What's everyone brewing?? by combat32
September 07, 2018, 07:53:29 PM

Temp Controller Suggestion by jcordero7713
September 07, 2018, 05:28:44 PM

Pale Malt, cascade, amarillo and simcoe by Hobrr
September 03, 2018, 03:46:36 PM

What are some good kits? by Jaymcmlxx
September 02, 2018, 08:48:23 PM

Fridge for kegs by James2851
September 01, 2018, 10:28:45 PM

Craig by Jaymcmlxx
September 01, 2018, 06:39:26 PM

Let's see your hop plants!! by combat32
September 01, 2018, 06:13:25 PM

What happens if you ferment a beer at 42C (107,6F) [VIDEO] by DrHans
August 31, 2018, 12:15:08 PM

Coconut NEIPA [VIDEO] by DrHans
August 31, 2018, 12:14:22 PM

We got hop cones! by DrHans
August 27, 2018, 01:07:30 PM

Next brew Idea by M0nk3y
August 26, 2018, 12:27:53 PM

apple juice clear when sunshine hits it by beerinplace
August 24, 2018, 03:32:18 PM

"Real" Breakfast Stout - Grain to glass [VIDEO] by DrHans
August 24, 2018, 01:41:08 AM

IBU's and pre-hopped kits by Vin5 WV
August 23, 2018, 04:51:50 PM

Larger Mini Fridge by RadioAstronomyObserver
August 22, 2018, 07:41:09 PM

First Brew Help by DrHans
August 22, 2018, 02:37:50 PM

Pellets Vs Whole by jimmyjusa
August 22, 2018, 12:34:29 AM

The BIPA that turned into a Stout [VIDEO] by DrHans
August 21, 2018, 02:37:08 PM

Plaato airlock unboxing [VIDEO] by DrHans
August 17, 2018, 01:22:17 AM

Brewing a Lager in under 3 days [VIDEO] by DrHans
August 15, 2018, 01:21:19 AM

Corn sugar by combat32
August 14, 2018, 07:42:41 AM

Gear review Mini CO2 Gas Regulator [VIDEO] by DrHans
August 13, 2018, 11:30:27 AM

Adding grains to in prove a extract kit by Jaymcmlxx
August 12, 2018, 07:13:34 AM

Brewed my pumpkin this weekend by combat32
August 09, 2018, 07:45:50 AM

Beer mail from Combat32, Christmas Ale by combat32
August 08, 2018, 07:41:42 AM

Question for Mac: How do Nano Breweries fly sparge by Macdonald
August 06, 2018, 07:07:13 PM

Well here they are by Macdonald
August 06, 2018, 07:03:45 PM

Bottle day by MichaelSingleton
July 28, 2018, 03:07:55 PM

Beer Keg by vic
July 25, 2018, 05:14:25 AM

Stout taste test by Hplovecraft07
July 21, 2018, 01:27:38 PM

Hop Rhizomes and plants by combat32
July 19, 2018, 11:40:50 AM

Lost another LHBS by Black Dog Brewery
July 18, 2018, 06:48:26 PM

17 Cream Ale - all grain by Brew Beerymore
July 14, 2018, 05:35:16 AM

Proper way to plant multiple hop Rhizomes by Black Dog Brewery
July 12, 2018, 10:33:49 PM

Bottle conditioning problem by Brew Beerymore
July 09, 2018, 02:51:24 PM

I start working at my LHBS by Brew Beerymore
July 09, 2018, 08:02:41 AM

Mashing/Boiling Question by combat32
July 08, 2018, 09:09:58 AM

Courgette/zucchini wine.....? by combat32
July 07, 2018, 08:05:23 PM

Brewing with Breakfast Cereal? by DrHans
July 01, 2018, 12:28:30 PM

Update on my hops! [VIDEO] by DrHans
June 29, 2018, 11:48:12 AM

Welcome by combat32
June 28, 2018, 08:42:31 AM

Flaked Rice by combat32
June 28, 2018, 08:35:14 AM

My Best Way to Pasteurize Fruit for Brewing! by DrHans
June 26, 2018, 11:32:17 AM

Howdy from a New York Red Neck by Brew Beerymore
June 24, 2018, 09:55:54 AM

Beer Head by combat32
June 23, 2018, 09:10:26 PM

Brewing!!! by Hplovecraft07
June 20, 2018, 11:02:27 AM

Powered by EzPortal