+- +-

+-User

Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
 
 
 
Forgot your password?

+-Gallery

Shoutbox

combat32 says: Happy Turkey day
combat32 says: Happy Fathers Day
combat32 says: Happy Easter
Brew Beerymore says: Happy Easter!  8)
combat32 says: Happy St Patricks day
combat32 says: Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays
combat32 says: Happy Labor Day
Brew Beerymore says: Cheers, 17'ers!
combat32 says: Happy 4th
combat32 says: Happy Memorial Day
Thank you to all our Veterans past, present and future ones.
17

+-Top Posters

combat32
Posts: 4425
vic
Posts: 3672
DamoNinja
Posts: 2865
CorronZenith
Posts: 2766
Greedy Dragon Brewing
Posts: 2496

Author Topic: Bitter as f@#k!  (Read 407 times)

TowelBoy2013

  • Jr. Member

  • Offline
  • **

  • 87
Bitter as f@#k!
« on: September 12, 2019, 02:30:43 AM »
Having recently finally obtained a reliable means of temperature control, I thought I'd throw down a quick Coopers K&K to see how the system would run. Good news is, it runs like a dream. Holds the temperature within +/- a degree. Unfortunantly the bad news is i chucked in some hops after 7 days and will CC for 5 days. Took a sample after Day 9 and holy shit is it bitter! :o eye-wateringly so...if thats a word. Now, i have had this problem before and after a few weeks the bitterness has subsided significantly. Umm, and yes i must add that the hops have been sitting in the fridge for over 5 years! So i'm just putting it down to old hops and fingers crossed the bitterness mellows. Be keen to know if anyone else has used hops this old and what was the resulting taste. cheers.
Conditioning - Pineapple & Grapefruit Mead
                   - Strawberry Wine
                   - Blueberry Mead
                   - Coopers Bitter
                   - Sweet Ambers SMaSH Ale

FV #1 - Empty
 FV #2 - Empty
FV #3 - Empty
In Fridge - Empty
Planned   - Vienna SMaSH

combat32

  • Master Brewer
  • Superhero Member

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 4425
Re: Bitter as f@#k!
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2019, 07:49:14 AM »
I have used hops a few years old, but usually hop bitterness goes away as the hops age.
some sour beer brewers want aged hops for that and some other reasons.
did you add hops to the kit during the boil?
maybe the kit was messed up?
pretty sure just adding dry hops wouldn't really make the beer the more bitter.

**some info for new brewers that dont know bittering comes from the boil the longer you boil the hops the more bitterness can come from the hops. the later additions give you flavor and aroma**
there's more to it then that but thats a simple version  :)

also older hops will get a funky smell like cheese or feet  :o thats when you know its time to toss them, unless an Old Sock IPA is your thing ;D

hope that helps ya out.
and good on ya for getting temp control for fermentation it will make a big difference.
17

heres a link to read too
https://www.morebeer.com/articles/storing_hops_properly
« Last Edit: September 12, 2019, 07:52:38 AM by combat32 »
Keg 1- HB Peanut butter stout
Keg 2- Chocolate Milk Stout
Keg 3- HB Peach Sour
Keg 4- HB Doppelbock
Keg 5- HB Citra IPA kviek
Keg 6- HB Oktoberfest
Keg 7-
FV1- 
FV2- 
Planning- a Raw Ale

TowelBoy2013

  • Jr. Member

  • Offline
  • **

  • 87
Re: Bitter as f@#k!
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2019, 01:11:36 AM »
Nah mate, no boil. Just threw the hops in. 100g Warrior and 40g Simcoe, I've used Simcoe quite a lot in the past but know SFA about Warrior. cheers.
Conditioning - Pineapple & Grapefruit Mead
                   - Strawberry Wine
                   - Blueberry Mead
                   - Coopers Bitter
                   - Sweet Ambers SMaSH Ale

FV #1 - Empty
 FV #2 - Empty
FV #3 - Empty
In Fridge - Empty
Planned   - Vienna SMaSH

combat32

  • Master Brewer
  • Superhero Member

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 4425
Re: Bitter as f@#k!
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2019, 03:23:00 PM »
Warrior is a great bittering hop for IPA's High Alpha Acid and very clean/neutral.
surprised it was so bitter with no boiling. maybe something with that kit.
cheers
Keg 1- HB Peanut butter stout
Keg 2- Chocolate Milk Stout
Keg 3- HB Peach Sour
Keg 4- HB Doppelbock
Keg 5- HB Citra IPA kviek
Keg 6- HB Oktoberfest
Keg 7-
FV1- 
FV2- 
Planning- a Raw Ale

TowelBoy2013

  • Jr. Member

  • Offline
  • **

  • 87
Re: Bitter as f@#k!
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2019, 12:53:43 AM »
Yeah i had no idea it was a bittering hop or would not have used it. Oh well, live n learn. Bottled it this morning and its as cloudy as buggery. I would imagine due to the amount of hops used. On the plus side once you get past the initial hop-burn i can detect residual flavours from previous brews (as its now a 5th gen. US05 slurry). Nice citrusy back-bone there. Yummy. Silver lining and all that.
Conditioning - Pineapple & Grapefruit Mead
                   - Strawberry Wine
                   - Blueberry Mead
                   - Coopers Bitter
                   - Sweet Ambers SMaSH Ale

FV #1 - Empty
 FV #2 - Empty
FV #3 - Empty
In Fridge - Empty
Planned   - Vienna SMaSH

 

Recent Topics

7 new changes to the Fermzilla! by DrHans
January 19, 2020, 08:29:56 AM

Low Carbohydrate beer by bryggern86
January 18, 2020, 02:39:18 PM

What did you just pour? New Thread by Siambrew
January 16, 2020, 03:26:27 AM

I tried to clean my Fermzilla in the dishwasher by DrHans
January 12, 2020, 12:16:46 PM

Inkbird ITC-308 problem by TowelBoy2013
January 01, 2020, 02:35:25 AM

Win some brewing stuff on my channel! by DrHans
December 29, 2019, 01:37:30 PM

Special equipment questions by combat32
December 26, 2019, 07:40:55 AM

Clear beer with gelatine [VIDEO] by DrHans
December 22, 2019, 05:43:15 AM

Sealed transfer using two see-through vessels. Fermzilla to the Fermenter King J by DrHans
December 18, 2019, 12:43:16 AM

Evolution of the Fermentasaurus- Fermzilla - Fermenter King by DrHans
December 11, 2019, 12:17:06 AM

Fermentasaurus gen 3 by DrHans
December 05, 2019, 02:54:06 PM

Cheap Plastic kegs or fermenters! by DrHans
November 28, 2019, 01:12:48 PM

Extract dilema by Hammy
November 27, 2019, 06:00:25 PM

Michelob Ultra Clone help by combat32
November 25, 2019, 10:16:54 AM

Pitched at a high temp but the airlock is going ballistic??? by TowelBoy2013
November 24, 2019, 01:16:08 PM

Fermzilla by SheWasJust
November 19, 2019, 05:45:46 AM

What is 17? by SheWasJust
November 18, 2019, 03:03:12 AM

Simcoe Munich SMASH by DrHans
November 17, 2019, 01:40:42 PM

10.7% Imp Stout by DrHans
November 09, 2019, 11:00:17 AM

Bourbon barrel oak chips by combat32
November 07, 2019, 03:50:58 PM

My Zombie Dust Halloween special [VIDEO] by DrHans
November 01, 2019, 04:14:49 PM

Hello and glad to be here by combat32
October 29, 2019, 03:53:39 PM

Returning the Fermzilla :( by DrHans
October 27, 2019, 09:49:48 AM

Fermzilla unboxing video and comparing it to the Fermentasaurus by DrHans
October 27, 2019, 09:49:22 AM

Is this really an APA? [VIDEO] by DrHans
October 15, 2019, 01:35:16 PM

I got some hops, need help with recipe by DrHans
October 15, 2019, 01:34:37 PM

Pumpkin 2019 bottle day FG reading by Hplovecraft07
October 14, 2019, 11:10:09 AM

Pumpkin 2019 brew day by Hplovecraft07
October 14, 2019, 11:08:46 AM

Bottle day by Hplovecraft07
October 14, 2019, 11:07:01 AM

I brewed a Munich Dunkel! by DrHans
October 08, 2019, 12:20:05 PM

How to store homegrown hops! by DrHans
October 05, 2019, 10:29:55 AM

Why and How to Passivate Stainless Steel Fermenters and Equipment [VIDEO] by DrHans
September 29, 2019, 11:57:09 PM

Dry Irish Stout - Guinness clone by combat32
September 27, 2019, 08:58:35 PM

Finally! I can start interacting with you folk. My first Cider. by johnnyingeorgia
September 24, 2019, 05:46:27 PM

Bitter as f@#k! by TowelBoy2013
September 15, 2019, 12:53:43 AM

Maintaining Fermentation temperature at 68 degrees F? by TowelBoy2013
September 08, 2019, 01:16:05 AM

What's everyone brewing?? by ryan88dozer
September 02, 2019, 12:19:48 PM

I brewed with 15months old yeast [VIDEO] by DrHans
September 01, 2019, 05:46:46 AM

Piney Flavor IPA?? by combat32
August 31, 2019, 06:59:21 PM

Been a while... How about alcoholic Vanilla Creme Soda by Jaymcmlxx
August 26, 2019, 08:54:49 PM

I tried to filter beer for the first time [VIDEO] by DrHans
August 25, 2019, 02:48:27 AM

4th Hop growing update [VIDEO] by DrHans
August 25, 2019, 02:44:27 AM

Brand new brewer! Thanks for having me! by Jaymcmlxx
August 23, 2019, 09:30:51 PM

WLP820 slow going by combat32
August 23, 2019, 02:23:02 PM

Vermont yeast. by combat32
August 19, 2019, 07:49:42 PM

Thirsty Thursday part 1: PirateLife IPA. Ink-Bird and 'What the Hell Is That @ 5 by TowelBoy2013
August 15, 2019, 02:33:59 AM

Hello from Australia by combat32
August 14, 2019, 07:50:18 PM

When to make a mead into a melomel? by combat32
August 04, 2019, 09:28:29 AM

+36% acid malt experiment sour IPA by DrHans
August 04, 2019, 06:10:22 AM

US-05 @ 59°F/15°C by combat32
August 03, 2019, 09:08:18 AM

HBW Seventeeeeen! by TowelBoy2013
July 31, 2019, 02:46:00 AM

4 reasons on why to prune your hops in the spring! by maxmon
July 24, 2019, 08:01:55 AM

Is homebrewing worth it [BLOG POST] by combat32
July 23, 2019, 08:34:40 AM

HBW XVI by TowelBoy2013
July 21, 2019, 04:49:42 AM

Hello everyone by dangquan09
July 20, 2019, 09:50:48 PM

Powered by EzPortal